You just a homosexual; I stick the gay rights movement
Should meet you and then invest in you
Rhymin' 'bout flowers 'n shit
And poets on the mic for twenty hours 'n shit
I'm housin' ya shit; Shuttin' ya fuckin' mic off
Snatch ya fuckin' poetry book and then kick the dyke off
Set the fight off, show 'em what real rap is
Real rhymes, real beats and real clappers


Listening to JMT's Rise of the Machines and caught this. What u guys think? Vinnie and Bis have done 3 colabs that I can think of off the top of my head (including Tibetan Black Magicians from the same album) so I dont think he's really attacking him, maybe a light dig?

Paz kicks a lot of rhymes talking of bis. Henry 8th comes to mind first when I think of this Mytho.

"for who the bells toll
Vinnie Paz I call hell home"

About a year before the FWTBT album.

As for the rhyme you posted, I believe sections of it are directed at bis, however I believe he is more explaining his roll in the war soon to be set off by the ARMY!

Bring on HELL. Ha. Ha.

Ferdowsi

"I feel sorry for any rapper think he equal to Bis"

Vinnie ain't talkin shit....that don't even make sense.

Definately not talking about Bis; however, it might be directed at Kanye.

BIS CLEARLY ALWAYS OUTSHINES VINNY PAZ BUT VINNY DOES HOLD HIS OWN IN HIS OWN WAY WITH BIS

BUT ONE QUOTE FROM BIS COMES TO MIND "NOW RAPPER CAN SHINE ON A SONG THAT FEATURES ME"

I'd love to hear him kick one verse without a basic 4-syllable rhyme pattern and actually say something

He has his whole career,which some of the more recent shit being the obvious exceptions.First two albums he was on another level,Visions of Ghandi,he had like half meaningful verses,and half of the style you refer to.LOB definitely had about 85% of tight verses,only a couple being like the style you refer to,and SIHKIH had a strong amount of good fillerless verses as well.He's just done it alot on the AOTP shit,because he even said himself that the whole album is on "some ignorant battle rap shit",so I don't think he cares much,besides coming with agressive delivery,tight mulites and violent lyrics.

However,lol this thread is stupid.Why do ya'll think EVERYTHING possibly refers to Bis? I'll bet my left nut Vinnie was just talking about "gay rappers" in general,not actual specific rappers.I've seen Vinnie put two artists above all others,Kool G and Bis.Some of ya'll read too much into shit.

I think I should state its not directed at bis in a negative way, nor directed at him when he says that, I said the rhyme, as in the whole track.

"They call me Kublai Khan, ready for war with a Ruger 9
I'm ready with a machete for Rudy Giulian
I'm ready for anybody who want war
Y'all ain't nice with the hands you can't brawl
You can't stall, we hold the black horses
I'm runnin' up in ya church to smack crosses
You lack rawness, you lack passion"

HRSMN. Remember the track is feat. Ras Kass.

From Kass's verse on the track:

"Tryna go 50/50 with my Billboard's check"

"Paint picture perfect, inside rockin' the b-bop
We not confused, raps the nigga news
Each rhyme a "Minority Report", fuck Tom Cruise
Adversity my muse, that's why I make mus-ic"

Linked to DreamZZZZZ.

Thats if you wish to see the poetry and the connections within HipHop and the Mytho's. CTHULHU's alive everywhere, this god ain't got no eyes YO, you gotta listen to see him, you feel me?! These mytho's are all over the place, IF you wish to see them. Its a fun game connecting Hip Hop together and seeing if MC's are talking to each other via poetry on tracks. Much like the blenders do on their own blends at times. Or maybe the poetry's just a coincidence, who knows?

PEACE,

Ferdowsi

why would he let Bis open up an album (VOG) if he disliked him or whatever. lol only thing i can think of is he jealous that he could never out do an album like RTJ.. nah but for real i spoke w/Paz @ a show, & he spoke nothing but good about Bis

THERE DEF IS NO DISSIN HERE....VINNIE PAZ AS LOVE FOR BIS, HE RECONIZES THE PSSION ND TALENT, SO IF SUM1 SAYS SUMTHIN BOUT A POET IT REFERS TO BIS??!? WAS TUPAC NOT A POET?

NO DISS HERE

I agree. He was clearly dissing Tupac.

This is pathetic, you guys are way out on a limb here reaching. Him and Bis constantly collab with one another, he aint gonna take shots at Bis.

Probably the most amount of sense said so far

Agree with Komplexx, yall niggaz cazy. Why would he have bis on that album and then diss him after he got slaughtered?

why hasn't this been closed yet?

You're a idiot. Out of all the horrendous reaches that one probably has to be up there with one of the worst in CC history.

haha.. looking into shit way to deeply.

haha

I always thought that was directed to Slug of Atmosphere.

I think 'subliminal' type disses are ridiculous. If you want to call someone out.. call someone out. Beating around the bush with some vague shit that may or may not be about the person is fucking silly.. just drop a name.

i thought this got closed.

Wow yo, just thought Id throw something up for discussion. Obviously Vinnie wouldnt wanna attack Bis, I said that already but since when did a dig have to be an attack? But if hes dissing poets then one way or another its dig at Bis, either way I dont even really care but I know ppl on Bis boards often do crazy sometimes over the top scraping at lyrics.




Bis has a tonne of subliminal disses.





So you're either 12 or a bitch? Or both? Every forum needs its post boosters I guess.

ive been quit for a looong time now, but this is crazy...motherfuckers, get over it, not all lines are directed at bis, almost every rappers is talking about shit like this, dumb fucks, why doesnt anyone say something when bis says he's better than all any rapper on tracks with other rappers, is he dissing them?? WOOOOhooooah, shiit he must be, he hatin on all of them right? come on children, this is entertainment, you say what needed so you sound cool with a nice flow and some decent rhymes, grow up bitches..

whover thinks this is to bis is fuckin retarded.

Haha, c'mon mods, close this already!

"bis has a tonne of subliminal disses"

oh then I take back everything I've said.. haha. I dont care who does subliminal disses thats where I stand on them.. Bis should know better.

stop asking for thread to be closed

it is as good as anything else out there

and like Bobo said, every forum needs posts/members on both sides for survival