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Sources: De La Hoya, Pacquiao agree to Dec. 6 fight in Vegas

By Dan Rafael
ESPN.com
Updated: August 27, 2008, 6:44 PM ET

Oscar De La Hoya, boxing's biggest star, will announce Thursday that he will meet pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao on Dec. 6, two sources close to the fight told ESPN.com.

Top Rank's Bob Arum, whose company promotes Pacquiao, would not confirm a deal was in place for what would be the year's biggest fight, but he did tell ESPN.com that De La Hoya would host a media teleconference at 2 p.m. ET on Thursday to announce his opponent.

"We'll know who is he is fighting tomorrow," Arum said Wednesday from Youngstown, Ohio, where he was attending a promotional event for the Kelly Pavlik-Bernard Hopkins fight that he is co-promoting with De La Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions. "I made a commitment that I wouldn't say anything and that tomorrow there would be an announcement. I'm not allowed to make any comments. Everything will be clear on Thursday."

Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer would not confirm the deal, either, but sounded positive when asked about it.

"Last week the deal was 90 percent dead, but we were able to revive it. The fact that it has been so quiet is a good sign," Schaefer said from Mexico, where he was traveling on business with De La Hoya. "It's been a lot of back and forth and skillful negotiating and to try to get each side to soften their stance. If the fight was Arum versus Schaefer, it would have been made awhile ago."

Schaefer dismissed reports this week that welterweight titleholder Paul Williams was under serious consideration to meet De La Hoya. Schaefer said that although Williams' name was thrown out during an internal meeting, it was quickly dismissed, and no contact was ever made between the De La Hoya and Williams camps. Williams promoter Dan Goossen confirmed that as well.

De La Hoya (39-5, 30 KOs), who has repeatedly said the December fight would be the last bout of his storied career in which he's won world titles in six weight divisions, has been in talks with Pacquiao (47-3-2, 35 KOs) for weeks. But negotiations got bogged down when the sides could not come to an agreement on how to split the revenue, which is expected to exceed more than $100 million.

De La Hoya stood firm for weeks on a 70-30 split in his favor; Pacquiao was demanding a 40 percent slice of the pie.

The rest of the major issues, from the maximum weight to the size of the gloves, were agreed upon, with Pacquiao getting his way on a 147-pound weight limit and 8-ounce gloves.

The percentage split that De La Hoya and Pacquiao have apparently agreed to is unclear.

Freddie Roach, Pacquiao's trainer and one of De La Hoya's former trainers, has been an outspoken advocate of the fight, going so far as to say he would train Pacquiao for free because he was so confident he would win.

Roach told ESPN.com on Wednesday that Pacquiao, whom he hadn't spoken to much recently, left him two voice mails at about 7 a.m. ET.

"He left me the messages and at the end of one of them, he said, 'Thanks for all your help.' I read that as the fight is done," Roach said.

Pacquiao, a lightweight titleholder who has won belts in five weight classes and is a national icon in the Philippines, would move up to welterweight for the showdown with De La Hoya.

The fight is expected to take place at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, where De La Hoya has fought five of his past six bouts and seven of his past 10.

Dan Rafael is ESPN.com's boxing writer.

Pacman got this, in my opinion.

This fight is garbage and I'm beyond pissed they brought it back from the dead. This fight means less than DLH-MW II.

For Oscar yes, he has nothing to gain (other than 10s of millions of dollars). But a W for Pacquiao would like nice on the resume and in the history books. Doesn't hurt that he'd be treated to the biggest payday of his career, and even if he loses...no damage would be done. There still would be plenty of fights left for him at lightweight (Marquez,Soto,Campbell, Guzman, Katsidis, Diaz,Casamayor,Khan etc.) Plus there's always a fight with Ricky Hatton at 140 that has been mentioned.

I'm somewhat torn on this fight, though. When it was originally being discussed, I was against it. But now I'm not so sure. Oscar is 35 years old. He didn't look so hot out last time against another fighter who should be campaigning at lightweigt. Steve Forbes can't crack for shit and still fractured a bone in Oscar's face. The fight is at 147, a weight Oscar hasn't seen in 7 years! He already has iffy stamina from the jump, cutting extra weight will make it that much worse. Manny is the smaller man in the fight, obviously..but he's in his prime and if he can handle Oscar's power (which is anyone's guess), I can see him giving Oscar fits. But who knows, as Brian Kenny would say I think this fight will be more "aesthetically pleasing" than Mayweather-De La Hoya either way.

De la Hoya will KO pacman

This is La Hoya's last contribution to Boxing, and it may become one of if not THE biggest fight ever and that's great for Boxing. It will be huge and give boxing a big ass boost. Plus Pacman is entertaining enough to make this fight watchable anyway.

I fucking hate Oscar and his bullshit. He was trying to find a big name with as much monetary upside and as little physical risk as possible and decided that was Pacquiao after another little guy Ricky Hatton turned him down.

This is such a pointless, meaningless fight its not even funny; this doesn't advance the sport at all.


That being said, I do believe Pacquiao can beat this version of Oscar and I hope he does because anyway to tarnish that pussy's legacy I'm all for.

Make sense, and I agree...all the way up to the point of you giving Manny a chance to win this fight.

Oscar gave Floyd all he could handle, and Floyd is illusive as fuck, quick, and can actually punch a little bit. Manny's quick offense is basically his defense. If Manny is dumb enough to trade, his shit is good night. Oscar can handle speed fighters. Can Manny handle Oscars ring savvy? Doubt that. Oscar dealt with Shane, Bernard, Mayweather, etc. What can Manny bring that Oscar hasnt defeated already or at least made a credible showing?

Basically.



The Rs

Just for the sake of debating this "fight":

Floyd kicked Oscar's ass, I'm not sure how people see that as a close fight but it was one sided to me. I'll agree with Max Kellerman who said after the fight, "Anyone who scored this any closer than 116-112, I have a problem with."

I have to disagree... Oscar can't handle speed. All his losses (except for a much bigger Hopkins), were because of a speed detriment: Mayweather and Mosley. He didn't loose the fight to Trinidad so I don't count that and he could have lost to Whitaker if it wasn't for Whitaker not letting his hands go a little more and biased judges. Oscar didn't handle any of the 3 guys you mentioned. The reason he could fight Mosley pretty close, same goes for Cotto, is despite all his speed Mosley prefers to fight rather than box which (at times) has been downfall.

Freddie Roach (Pacquiao's trainer) obviously trained Oscar against Mayweather and he knows what he's dealing with. Manny has far superior speed, especially foot speed which IMO is more important in winning fights than hand speed, and if he can pick his spots can out land Oscar. Of course Manny shouldn't win, but he can if he employs a strategy similar to what Mayweather did. In addition to the speed advantage, Oscar is a year and a half older (farther removed from his prime) and he's coming to 147 which is going to be incredibly difficult for him.


Just so people don't get it twisted; I'm giving Pacquiao about a 30% chance of winning the fight. Which is probably more than most people and if he gets blown out in the first few rounds (which I don't see happening) you guys can tell me I was wrong. If he does get stopped, I think it will be after the 8th round because Oscar's beat him up and wore him down.

Manny will swarm on Oscar. Taking a 147 punch is the only problem Manny could have. The results of this fight will bring PBF out of retirement to catch his first defeat.

Are you implying Manny could beat Mayweather???





If so:

A 147 pound version of the Manny Pacquiao we know is the only fighter I think could be Floyd.

I can't concur yet until I see Manny in the ring with Oscar. At 140 I say Manny would have a better chance and it's a weight that I'm sure Floyd can still make since he doesn't even weigh in at 147 for his fights.

I think he has no shot against Floyd. The speed advantage Manny usually has becomes null against Floyd, plus Floyd is bigger and a far superior technician. I'd actually really like to see that fight, but keep in mind guys like Morales and Marquez gave Manny all he could handle. Those are great fighters but they are no Floyd Mayweather; Floyd is still easily another tier above them.


The guy that has the best shot is Margarito and I've been saying that for years. Floyd is a much slicker and better conditioned target than Cotto but Margarito's pressure will make it interesting. Because of his frame, Floyd really isn't even a true Welterweight he's more of a 140 pounder. At that weight, he could probably go another 5 years without loosing fighting everyone in the division if he wanted. Joan Guzman would give him a real interesting fight though.

Margarito would never touch Floyd. But add speed to that tenacity and u get Manny Pacquio. Also, El Terrible gives anyone a tough fight. As does JMM and Marco.
Floyd's speed is what sets him apart from most fighters. Castillio and Emmanuel Agustus were able to touch him though.

its obvious that ur jus an oscar hater

imo and in the eyes of most of the boxing world, oscar beat mosley in that 1st fight

I think you mean in the 2nd fight? because Shane BEAT THE SHIT out of Oscar in the first one, no two ways about it.

pacman is going to eat the big ball in the corner and gobble oscars ghost

Manny doesn't have the size, strength or chin of Margarito and that's what makes Margarito special along with his endurance and determination. I don't really see the comparison.


Floyd would've dominated Morales and Barrera if they ever fought.

Really? Because I'm "of the boxing world" and I don't find that the case at all. I knew you wouldn't take my word for it, so I did a little research:

* In a poll of 28 sportswriters at ringside, 16 scored it for Mosley, eight for De La Hoya and four had it as a draw.

* The Associated Press had Mosley winning 116-113.


I scored it a draw personally, assuming you meant the 2nd fight because the 1st was a beat down for Shane.



source: Here

Just stating my opinions on the matter. I think Oscar is pulling a bit of Mayweather by taking the fight that cause him the least damage and bring about the biggest pay check. He is older and near the age of retirement but I also think he feels the need to help boxing out by making a fight period. If he goes up against Margarito he will not win and he knows it. After the manner in which Margarito annihilated Cotto, taking his best shots and still managing to give his, Oscar knows that he will walk away from the fight with a loss and possibly health issues for the remainder of his life. This obviously sucks for Margarito because after putting on such a performance you would think he earned and deserved the showdown with Oscar, but that's life.

I did not know Hopkins was going to meet up with Pavlik and sort of don't want to see the fight happen. I think it will be a good fight and that Bernard is a legend who has nothing more to prove. I just don't want to see him get lullabied by Pavlik whom has the strength and skill to do it.

Mayweather is a juvenile adult with deep seeded father issues whom needs to stop bleeding, stick a tampon in it and try to salvage somewhat of a legacy. He is a father now and does not need his kids growing up hearing that their fathers skill in boxing was overshadowed by his inability to grow a sack.

The future of boxing is always in peril so I guess that is one reason why people keep tuning in, and why boxing will never disappear as a beloved American sport.

look we all know that manny pacquiao could beat a Crop circle around de la hoya with one arm
tied behind his back. oscars been with a Bar of Soap. HE washed up son.

People always say boxing is dead/dying (like hiphop) but then Mayweather/DLH comes around and makes Super Bowl type money. Mayweather/Hatton was huge and DLH/PacMan will sell over a Million PPV too. Boxing is alive and well, its just transformed; granted, the popularity it had 50-100 years ago is long gone in the US though.

And to add---Yes, boxing isn't what is used to be(In America) and only because of the rise of football and the NBA. Still, it has its hardcore fans and big names. I personally think its not marketed right as people sneer at anyone who isn't a 'nice guy' or has any bit of personality. Oscar isn't scared of Margarito. He would outclass dude. Cotto was never a great fighter and had many reasons for losing that fight. Cotto don't hit or can take one like Oscar. When u seen Oscar drunk in the ring?? Never. Oscar is too quick and as big as Tony. I like Tony, but i'm being real. Hell, lets see Margarito/Santos?? Margarito/Mayorga. He lost to no tech havin raw-ass Paul Williams. Cmon now....Oscar duckin Margarito??????Ha. The reason for the Pacquio fight is because Pac is a Star. Stars should fight each other. I'd like to see Margarito too but he ain't owed nada.

^^^

Oscar's clearly a classier fighter than Margarito but he has no endurance, he'd get warn down and knocked out IMO.


I think Margarito didn't take Williams seriously.

I agree with that as well, it will be a Hatton Kast-Tzu all over again.

im with you there, but peerless also comes with a good point, weve seen how Oscar gets worn down after the 6th or so, and that could be a major factor. But Oscar is still Oscar and would whoop that ass back behind the borders.

against who?? Mosely?? Vargas?? Tito?? PBF?? Hopkins?? Bazooka?? Sweat Pea?? Oscar has had his issues but I recall him comin right for the big ones.

You lost me here, he got his ass kicked in half those fights.

He lost but when was he dominated or worn down??

Hopkins and Mayweather.

maybe i need to watch again. In the Hopkins fight, I thought De La Hoya was on his way to an upset and got caught with that body punch(i thought the punch was suspect at first) and couldn't recover in time. Against PBF, Speed ultimately prevailed. Once Mayweather was able to settle and get his clock right on Oscar....................he was able to either get off first and then cover or scram or stay out of range. Plus I think he was stronger than what O was ready for.

To me, Mayweather dominated him and Oscar wore down. Oscar looked pretty good in the first half of the fight but he tired out and Floyd gets better as the fight goes on. The second half was a white wash.


I thought he wore down against Hopkins too, he looked good early using a lot of movement and then as he slowed down Hopkins started to get to him. I have to say, I was very impressed with Oscar's performance against Hop but I think he laid down when he was given the opportunity to do so.

i meant the 2nd fight..n it wasnt dat close...absolute worst case scenario was 7-5

i thought 0scar won the 1st fight hands down, too

Then you need to cop some glasses and watch it again. Oscar lost the first fight against Shane CLEARLY.

All that info was on the 2nd fight. I doubt DLH's family thinks he won the 1st fight.

Sales from De La Hoya-Pacquiao produce boxing's second-biggest gate

By Dan Rafael
ESPN.com

The Golden Boy continues to have the golden touch.

Oscar De La Hoya's welterweight showdown with pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao on Dec. 6 sold out almost instantly after tickets went on sale Wednesday.

Organizers announced that all of the approximately 16,000 tickets to "The Dream Match" at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas (HBO PPV) sold out for a gate of almost $17 million.

The total makes De La Hoya-Pacquiao the second-biggest gate in boxing history, surpassed only by the $18,419,200 worth of tickets sold for De La Hoya's fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. on May 5, 2007.

The total surpasses the $16,860,300 generated by the 1999 heavyweight championship rematch in Las Vegas between Lennox Lewis and Evander Holyfield, promoters said.

It means De La Hoya will be a part of four of the top 10 gates in Nevada history; his bouts with Felix Trinidad and Bernard Hopkins are also in the top 10.

"This is just a reflection of the overwhelming interest in this mega-event and we are extremely delighted that tickets sales were so swift," Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer said. "The matchup is one of the best in boxing and will be one of the biggest events the sport has ever seen."

Bob Arum, whose Top Rank promotes Pacquiao, said, "This is fantastic and shows the magnitude and appeal of this event. When you have two superstars like Manny Pacquiao and Oscar De La Hoya fighting each other, the public is going to respond, and that is what they just did. No one wants to miss this one."

In addition to the arena, Arum said, there would be approximately 33,000 closed-circuit tickets available in Las Vegas priced at $60 and $100.

"It's a hot, hot fight. People will be screaming for tickets," Arum said. "How many fights that people go crazy about do $17 million, all in? But this fight is at $17 million and that does not even include the revenue that will be generated from the closed circuit, the pay-per-view, the foreign [television] sales and the sponsorships."

With Golden Boy, Top Rank and the MGM taking large chunks of tickets before the public sale, only a few thousand tickets were available.

The fighters will commence a six-city national media tour beginning Oct. 1 at the Statue of Liberty in New York. Other cities on the schedule are Chicago, Houston, San Antonio, San Francisco and Los Angeles, with most of the events open and free to the public.

Dan Rafael is the boxing writer for ESPN.com.

this fight is close now! im backing de la hoya for this bout. could be wrong tho.

Amir Khan is fighting on Saturday as well.

*crickets*

It's the heavyweight division which is dead.

Hope Pacquiao wins!



He's gonna have two/three easy fights before they put him in with someone decent again, this being one of them. I see him going in and taking his time and breaking the guy down and to show off his defence (which he has obviously been working on).

Looking more forward to Carl Froch vs. Jean Pascal. That should be a decent scrap while it lasts. I'll be rooting for Pascal, but expecting him to get stopped.


Pacquiao-De La Hoya weigh-in coverage beings at 5:30 EST (2:30 PT) on HBO.com and Yahoo.com. It also will be aired live on Sportscenter at 6 EST.

i was watching roach earlier on skysports news when he was saying he wont get paid unless manny wins, and the dude was slurring for fun? lol is this normal or he hit too much beerski?
whats happened to the dude that beat khan, prescott? i cant find antything on google?

^Freddies got parkinsons disease

you kidding me?

Nah bro. I wouldnt joke about something like that. Makes you have even more respect for the guy knowing that, right?

Just google it for confirmation.

how tight do i feel. mucho respect!

Pac-man.

Khan wins in the second round, looks like he's worked on keeping his hands up, beat Fagan easily as expected, but he is a journeyman.

I think re-matching Prescott should be his next fight.

^ Give it 2-3 more fights, then Prescott.