QUOTE(white lotus @ Aug 14 2009, 02:36 PM)

life is all things my lady.... it does take both sides to make love....if both mutually agree its about the sex watever...thats str8...im not hating do your thing...
but what im saying is... if you love a person enough to marry them...you shouldnt be out fucking other people or even chillin with them without the consent of your partner.....its got nothing to do with freedom and everything to do with loyality....not thinking your free is a feeling....no matter what you are always free...you are you and no one else... and you can do whatever you want....its about can you be loyal...can you love this man who can give up everything for you....basically if he does it for you....and you say you will do it for him then go do tha opisite your a fucking whore....male or female...gay or str8... that is how i feel... however i can understand not feeling free if you dont want to be with someone but feel bad or whatever...but still even then stop being a sneeky coward and fess up like a man....IF YOU want to live free...never lie...do only what you think is right... and also trust that different people will do different things... thats all you can do....becuase the systems of government wont let you live any more free then that....oobe you are a great person and mixer and i think your beliefs are very close to this already and we are just wording it strang cuz we are from different worlds basically....
and really its not that either sex is worse.....its just some people are that way....who is to say tho witch is the right way and the wrong way....just cuz this this is my opinion doesnt make it omega...If a man has the opportunity to fuck a hot girl, they will. no matter what. i wouldnt. and have proven it to myself 1000s of times....and in honesty sometimes the girl or girls are so hot i just walk away pissed off...but i live this way cuz im a real fuckin man....im not some fuckin weak pussy coward that has go behind peoples back and fuck them over while they are lieing on thier death bed....im not like that and ill fuckin kill any dis loyalty.........fuck it you want a lotus rant.....this shit is fuckin disgraceful....what cuz some whore wants to feel a lil bit of pleasure so they get the right to make you feel the pain of hell.....fuck that....is one wicked whores pleasures for 30 mins worth more then a mans fuckin marige....no the pleasure could never match the suffering...especially when you supposedly just died and they go did it right after....i shoulda killed mother fuckers....but a sertain god of everything told me not to....
pz the only one left
Nice posts White Lotus.
Making this thread I was hoping for people to bring forward some deep and meaningful answers.
I think its easy to blame women, I blame women but only for allowing themselves to come to this, to become imbalanced, but men are just as fucked up unfortunately. Every woman is different, for example look at Oobe complaining about being controlled, but there are a LOT of women who crave that, I don't think the details are what is important, however, if the trust isn't there then there will be jealousy. That INCLUDES self awareness and self confidence, if one isn't confident they project that, and that isn't what either sex likes. For example, if you are with a girl who continually says "i'm ugly" and you think she's beautiful, eventually if she says it enough, it will annoy you and you will think she's ugly.
We all have personal issues, male or female, but society and MONEY dictate those issues very much so, especially money. In this world, unfortunately, LOVE=MONEY, thats why we have women selling their asses, and because of this basic connection, you have sex=love. Obviously this mathematics isn't true, but its how they will be wired up in our heads, something that shouldn't happen!
And I agree with what you have said, people shouldn't need to feel controlled and trapped, if they are they are probably with the wrong person, but they should feel empowered and free if there is trust, and thats on a deep level as well as a simple level, if you project that you will hopefully get it back.
I agree with you to say the least Lotus, and its not just a female problem however, you would hope that generally there was more self respect and good thoughts, but just as easily we can look at what males do to make them live in this maze, either way its an interesting discussion.
Interesting conversations, peace,
Ferdowsi