Wondering if anyone wants to put a date on when all the rhymes will be activated? is the answer as simple as when RTJ2oo drops? or maybe decembr 21st 2012? No doubt in my mind that many of them are already activated.

Like I said, was wondering what others thoughts on this are? Maybe this should be moved to lyrical analysis, but doesn't need any analysis in depth, do that in ya head, just drop a date?

Maybe we can do some claculations to figure out what the collective subconscious is pointing towards. Ha. Ha.

Peace,

Ferdowsi

november 11 2011


11/11/11

11/11/11

11/11/11

111/11/11

111/111/111

Interesting.

Found this for you:



Interesting guess, keep em coming.

Peace,

Ferdowsi

great topic ferd.

TIME CHAMBER!!!!!!!!!!

theres a timer on every word the clock is ticking, I LOVE IT!

lol, im just excited, im mixing some of the hottest shit i've ever done right now, the RTJ tape is gonna be crazzzzzzzzzzy

Im channeling spirits or something when i mix its incredible!

Love this topic tho, ACTIVATE YOUR MIND AND IT WILL ACTIVATE THE RHYME!

So any guesses? Glad to hear you're in good spirits,

Peace,

Ferdowsi

what do you mean activated?

aren't you talking about about in the future and past, when G.W. wrapped his head around them and put them on paper, to later spit them into a mic which then hit our eardrums, activating emotional, chemical responses in the listener?

I say future and past because according to the linear calendar, many many lyrics have already been spit, but they were just there lingering in non-linear space waiting for G.W. to reach that particular moment in time when he wrote them.

Your question appears to be subjective, thus arbitrary.

Ha. Ha.

Seeming we are devil worshipping Masons, I looked up Dictionary.com at the 3rd entry for each word.

Subjective

3. placing excessive emphasis on one's own moods, attitudes, opinions, etc.; unduly egocentric.

arbitrary

3. having unlimited power; uncontrolled or unrestricted by law; despotic; tyrannical: an arbitrary government.

That sounds like a good description of a Mad Man.

I ask because Canibus states the rhymes will one day be activated, and this is mixing his works so I feel its a good question to ask to see who has the BALLS to make a prophecy. Only Mr. Balls so far, even I haven't, seems like the only dude crazy enough here is a guy who loves orange and men eating poo. Interesting.

As for being tyrannical and egocentric, thats cute you think so greatly of me, any more more long nails on your left hand margret? Hope not, don't want you to dig too deep, you may cut me. You're a Joker, I wouldn't go as far as saying a joke, yet, you're close to it thou.

By activate I obviously mean make the user switch to the 5th dimensional vibration, I would say PLOO is in a way a metaphor in itself of this. If you don't know what I mean by activated, I don't think we really are speaking the same language, I've made plenty of mixes explaining the phenomenon.

Peace,

Ferdowsi

hmm "when one enters the 5th dimension".

I get you now.

whatta question .. man.. so fucking dope.

we're unique and lucky to have Bis to tune into. ...

yeah I don't remember WHEN Bis said "The rhymes will soon be activated" but I remember him saying it.

To sit back an conceive infinity is activation. ... This maybe happens at different times for everybody.

That is a good question, now that I understand it.

I was watching Mathew Barney's Cremaster 3 (a video art piece which erases time), just SLIGHTLY before PLI dropped (around the same time) so.. yeah that's just me though. ...

Its weird because I often forget about infinity and get distracted from its omnipresence.. especially during my daily affairs. ... man..

whew. ...

they will be activated for different people at the different times

I meant the whole infinity concept.

Not thinking about it every day, but try thinking about mixing every day which makes you think of rhymes which makes you think how to creatively get that down and connect to the poetry. I think you will find Oobe recently did that very creatively.

Even in the last few months a lot of the rhymes have been activated, but nothing to make any of us think we are completely shifting and feeling all of the timeline, past PLOO, but in every part of life. Curious to see others thoughts, mainly for the mixers thats why its in this section, cause that may be something they are also interested in about the rhymes.

PLOO and infinity is a highly creative and fun game, its a special type of game and it will be played out until infinity or until activation, thats how I see it anyway, but thats just my opinion. You can debate it, but I don't see the point, much more fun just guessing a date, or WILLING a date? Peace,

Ferdowsi

True that ! Im glad all of PLoo mixers are getting along and sharing Bis message of OneNess. Ferd, I agree with Lotus. Im activated now thx to the rhymes.
I scratch mixed ploo again over my 1st ever sp12 beat i made in 1999 - listen to this :

http://www.zshare.net/audio/66321763452bba1a/

Get some LSD and watch the rhymes activate beyond your imagination and/or comprehension. Rest of us will simply listen to ploo for what it is.

do re me fa so la see do,
these are the tones that will activate your own

Sooner or later they will activate.

I personally don't think the rhymes have been activated yet, more rhymes need to be put out for that to happen and reality would need to shift before things were "activated". We are getting closer to that, I mean it in a poetical sense more than anything, when a rhyme connects to many other bars simultaneously. Don't get dragged down by a .net type mindstate, what I'm talking about is very real.

PLOO I personally don't think has been fully activated, one could understand it, visualise it, however, it doesn't mean the time has come where the rhymes are alive. I feel metaphorically and poetically, RTJ2 will be the cog that will unlock PLOO's key, however, it will take a while to even unlock RTJ2OO.

We should appreciate that by mixing, we've got a lot closer to activating the rhyme than if we didn't touch it, we gave the rhyme power and I can sense a great pride of this within this thread alone, thats pretty cool. Its like bis said how we can put life in a lifeless body, we've done that, PLOO was lifeless until we started mixing it and giving it momentum, through this we've activated a lot within ourselves which we didn't know we could do. Like you said OddReflex, you will continue listening, but its hard to explain to one who listens the benefits of creating as well as listening and how you have to develop skills for the latter, so undoubtedly the mixers get more out of PLOO musically than anyone else will. I don't think there is a mixer who's made a mix where the listener enjoys the mix MORE than the mixer, I don't think its possible! Ha.

Anyway, you and the rhymes are different, but point being is when will the rhymes be activated so that one could listen to all the rhymes and understand all that is said fully with an end result. If you like, inputing a method on the listener to give back a desired result from the process? Better put?

Peace,

Ferdowsi

Thats hot, I love how the whole style of scratching sounds man, I was mixing PLOO on serato a while back, sounded wild and fresh as fuck, its a shame more haven't used serato in their mixes, that'd be ill!

Peace,

Ferdowsi

I've had several messages/emails from ppl on youtube and even on this very site recently (not naming names) but these ppl told me that a mix or several mixes changed their lives in a positive way...i mean..wow...
I never thought of the power that lays behind this. that you could affect a person in such great ways not even I tought would be possible. its just amazing.

I respect that fact, weren't trying to say you don't get emails to say positive things about your mixes, I'm sure we've all received them in one form or another and they are for sure uplifting to know others have got something out from a mix which has been hand crafted.

However, I still stand by my statement that no one will enjoy the mixes more than the mixer, your response is proof of this I feel, the pride you feel for your work is encorporated by this. I'm sorry if you were misunderstood and read it as a negative citation on your work, far from it, you wouldn't have the energy to keep mixing and pouring love in if you didn't gain MORE out of the mix than the listener, because that would count on the listener begining to mix after hearing that. I am again sure that many of us have inspired others to mix in different styles, for example you yourself use a style created by someone else, that inspired you to create something of your own which you love as well as a sub style within that style. We create wormholes and walk down them, this is infinity, we are one and grow as one, its a beautiful thing.

I will also guarantee that those who have emailed you would enjoy and get far more out of a mix they create themselves if you inspired them enough to do this, it all has to do with the level of involvement you have with infinity as well as interaction. For example, the best a listener can do to effect a mixer is give feedback, positive or negative. A mixer can have a greater effect on another mixer than a listener, because they can create a cipher for others to step into and use metaphors to connect to, usually metaphors found in the main body of work, by body of work not just PLOO but the whole Canibus catalog as well as bringing metaphors and concepts from all around Hip Hop and beyond into the world of poetry.

I hope that better explains the statement and helps you appreciate that your love is strong, thus why you put the time and effort into it, thus the reason you claim you spend 2 to 3 hours on a bar, your listener doesn't have that level of enjoyment or love to put that time in or figure it out, they will make do as being just listeners, in the game of CTHULHU LIVES they have a role as do we, as does the KEEPER. You are an investigator, listeners are no more than KOKEN, meaning they have no real effect on the outcome of the game, they merely stand by and watch, however they can do more. If you inspire a KOKEN then they will become an investigator, or, A MIXER.

Here is a description of A KOKEN:



I have more than once paid too much mind to Koken's, by this I mean hateful Koken's, often the mindstate of many are to take in what these Koken's say and do as if they were important, those who understand the game know that sometimes koken can be annoying and built to destroy others fun, when, and if, they decide to effect the game for personal reasons. Thought I'd get a little deeper about this game, but its all blessed, I am more than proud by what love is shown for infinity and the amazing amount others get from the mixes.

Peace,

Ferdowsi

nah, I didnt mean that at all, I didnt think anything negative about your post...
I was just saying because most of the time when I make a mix, I love it in the beginning but after a while it fades away a bit and I want to do better... But The listener doesnt hear these small details that I want to get perfect, unless they know PLoo and how its been created... so they just love it for how the mix is... that was what i ment, Sometime the listener could enjoy it more because they don't know about the small details that I want to sound better, things like that...I'm not talking about other mixers tho, Im talking about someone that heard the song somewhere and didnt know what PLoo was and just heard the song and takes it like it is... while I always want to do better
you know what i mean? its hard to explain, but lets say the mix I made "One Ness" It was amazing to me in the beginning and it still is someway but now that we almost perfected our styles that old mix doesnt sound as good as it is in reality...
while a listener doesnt know all that and just hears it and is blown away by it.

Thats cool, you should push yourself to your limits.

As for the listener, they may appreciate it, but not love it like you do, or should I say at least the way you should love it.

Peace,

Ferdowsi

You handled it pretty well, good to see you actually interacting humbly instead of simply insulting people indirectly. Will discuss this with in more depth later on.

I think most of the bars have been activated already by FWTBT, the CoT demo and research. Even more will be activated when CoT is finally released. Maybe some more on RTJ2OO.

Each Layer has it's own thread in Lyrical Analysis, so maybe we should start discussing PLOO again. People should start picking out random couplets to analyse. Maybe a new one each day.

Depends who you are, just like in real life. I can respect how people think I love "arguing", however, the people I tend to argue with have, I feel, done me wrong by pushing negative emotions on me. MY EMOTIONS CONTROL MY THOUGHTS, THAT IS HOW I THINK! From private pictures of me being edited to my dead relatives being disrespected, why? Because I love the bars. Now that isn't normal.

I think those who know me know I am honourable, I am indomitable, I am not usually the type to debate with because I have my own mind and I will express my thoughts. My mixes touch upon this and those who know me tend to love me, those who don't tend to hate me because they don't understand me. There is no man on this planet who is loved by all, some may say God is that man, I would say God is no sex, if any he would probably be a woman, seeming he gives life.

CC.net and those with a negative view on the life of the MC we know as Canibus tend to draw a very evil picture of me indeed, not that I care much, but I would say, if you really think bad of me, talk to me, you will see that I got the same love as you do, for Hip Hop, and if you want to confuse that and hate on me for it, then you will see why Hip Hop is dying. As brothers with the same love, we should be more respectful. What is it about brothers that make them so TIGHT? Its the fact that they both have the same love, for mother, and of course father, mother being Hip Hop and father being the lyrics she dotes, we all want to make sure mother is with the right man right? I mean, that'd effect us too, gotta, we just kids!

Anyway, like I said, my love is your love, as long as you don't confuse that, WE BROTHERS, I will treat you as such, those who only know hate will meet their fate, they already are seeing it and getting bitter knowing it.




A very good point and probably the best answer on this thread by far. FWTBT no doubt is important, its the album which came with PLOO and linked a lot to all of his bars previous and what has come after, its almost like the bridge to the past, it'll be interesting to see how the future bars will walk this bridge, CoT has gone a long way to showing us how it is possible.

What I find interesting is the mentions all over his new work about infinite styles of rhyming, it has me even thinking parts of the undergodz album may be infinite as well as other albums, for what cause? how to be used? who knows?!?!?!

I feel although these questions may seem far off, they are integral parts of how the future will be shaped and how bis does truely aim to get back to the mic and even surpass his initial entry into "the game".

Peace,

Ferdowsi

i also think alot of the material is premonitions from the future, and will not dawn on folk untill events start unfolding.
"co signed with a glaxosmithklein design" (2007 bar of ploo)for instance,meant nothing to most of us untill swineflu hit us this year.
i am afraid this is the case with alot more of the scenarios he delves into.
"remote viewing the globe, what i am shown runs my blood cold"

The rhymes activated when Bis himself posted the wavs of PLoo in 2007 here. Then we activated ploo when kg/omni 1st starting mixing it in April 2007. Since then, those rhymes activated ME towards a higher level...of work, thinking, etc...

who wouldn't want to honor a man with such incredible philosophical insights?

doesn't the man give life by shooting his beans up the ladies stink crevasse?

So God is a hermaphrodite, you heard it here first people Ha.

I meant by the statement, s/he birthed all universes, not just conceived. Its all well and good getting your willy wet but that wouldn't be the day of birth would it?

Interesting conversation to say the least but probably in the wrong place eh! On a side note, I watched the video of Kaku you posted up, one I hadn't seen before, made me wonder, if we ever got contact with a type 3 planetary civilisation, what types of information would they reveal? Maybe they'll know the answer to this question? But beyond that, just imagine, its mind blowing, the type of information which can convert your mind into a spaceship!

Peace,

Ferdowsi