Don't believe KG.

The mix he recently dropped "SNAKES" was indeed a collab with me BUT this fuckface used HIS verse on another collab before our collab was even finished. He was too LAZY to make a new verse for his collab with Ferd so he just used the verse for our collab on another mix. Then he claims i never managed to finish my verse......
He now posted MY beat on here with his verse over it just because he knows I used it for something else.



AND FOR THE RECORD TO MAKE EVERYTHING CLEAR.

THIS COLLAB WAS A MIX WITH ME, KG & BAAL.
ME & KG finished our verses. and I waited on BAAL FOR 2 months and only then he tells me he wasnt gonna do a verse.
I was like, why u make me wait so long....?
then 2 weeks later KG's verse pops up on another collab. and I shouldnt get mad?!?
YALL SLOWED ME DOWN WITH YOUR HORSESHIT.



PS: Yo Karma Infinite, KG always calls you a retard on yahoo.
He always talks shit behind ppls back.

I admitt, I'll call you a retard aswell but atleast I tell it to ya face.

KG, Ferd and the rest of them always talk shit behind ppls back.

Ha. Ha.

If you can't do a collab mix, just don't agree to it, I know it takes you 3 to 4 hours to create 1 bar, just make sure you give yourself a clear 24 hours of mixing time before you want to make a mix and you'll be fine, no need to fall through on projects.

As for KG's verse, at the time, KG told Shan this verse was from the verse that was meant to be for your mix. I don't see any reason why KG would lie about that.

On a side note, Shan and I also made a mix with BaaL who also had began to create a mix for your tape which fell through and he also used that verse on the mix.

You've let down a lot of brothers other than KG and BaaL also, instead of actually apologising for continually getting yourself into intentional arguements to get out of mixing, just don't agree to mix with people if you don't have the time, then you won't have people frustrated at you, especially when you want to claim you are the greatest mixer ever and we are slowing YOU down, looks rather silly.

Anyway, grow up Oobe, these games are boring,

Ferdowsi

I'm not gonna mix next to someone who chops some wack irrelevent shit. only makes me look bad.
if u dont chop hot stuff get out of my sight.
and why are u saying i spend 3 or 4 hours on 1 bar?? is that something negative??
Ive said ONCE that SOMETIME I spend 2 hours on 2 bars to get everything sound right.
you got jealous and turned it in something negative and now bringing it up all the time and even adding a few hours LOL... you are jelous because im better than you in EVERYTHING. this is just the truth.
yea yall slowed me down, make me chop up dope verses for the RTJ tape, but then i get the other guys their verses and they sound like shit, my verse sounds all out of place. fuck that shit. i'm not gonna be on that shit if it makes me look bad.
either step it up or do it without me. me not being on the rest of the songs means this tape is gonna SUCK lol it already sucked with all the wack shit i heard but now oh boy...not even worth downloading...
you ferd, are by far the worst ploo mixer, so just shut up.
the verses i chopped for this tape i will release on my own rtj tape.
once yall dropped the tape im gonna cut out the CANIBUS verse on PLII and make my own version of it.

AND NOTHING "FELL THROUGH", I WAS FINISHING MY COLLAB WITH KG WHEN I HEARD HIS VERSE ON ANOTHER COLLAB, WHAT KIND OF SHIT IS THAT????
I HAD OUR MIX FINISHED ONLY DETAILS LIKE INTRO AND EFFECT I NEEDED TO ADD BUT THEN HIS VERSE SUDDENLY POPS UP ON ANOTHER MIX.

THATS LIKE A RAPPER DOING A COLLAB WITH SOMEONE BUT BEFORE THAT SOMEONE CAN FINISH IT HE SELLS HIS VERSE TO ANOTHER RAPPER FOR ANOTHER COLLAB.
AND NOW HE POSTS THE BEAT WICH I USED FOR SOMETHING ELSE.

FUCK YOU WACK MIXERS AFTER 2.5 YEARS AND YOU STILL CANT MIX PROPERLY.
YALL ARE DUMB FUCKS AND I GET FRUSTRATED BEING SO ABOVE ANY OF YALL.
IM SO OUT OF MY PLACE IN A RETARD HOME LIKE THIS.

AND FOR THE RECORD TO MAKE EVERYTHING CLEAR.

THIS COLLAB WAS A MIX WITH ME, KG & BAAL.
ME & KG finished our verses. and I waited on BAAL FOR 2 months and only then he tells me he wasnt gonna do a verse.
I was like, why u make me wait so long....?
then 2 weeks later KG's verse pops up on another collab. and I shouldnt get mad.
YALL SLOWED ME DOWN WITH YOUR HORSESHIT.

Nothing negative, you said you spend 3 to 4 hours on 1 bar, if you spend 2 hours on 2 bars, still, pretty nuts, probably why you fall through on the mixes.

As for me being the "worst" mixer, whats that got to do with anything? You claim you are the best mixer, I won't be as bold as that, but I've got mail just like you from people who love my shit and thank me, my own lady likes my mixes, thats about all I care about, I don't want the whole world to say I'm the best, although I think more importantly I'm one of the most stylish and unique, rather be that then beg trying to sound something I'm not.

As for KG, he's never fallen through on any projects, in this place you've lied about many releases and lied to many mixers that you'll collab with them and then just decide they aren't "good" enough to be graced by you.

It's because of your shitty attitude that SpitBoss and Canibus movement is too good for you, and you aren't allowed on board, and you bitch about it rather than acting like a lady and trying to elevate yourself from all this petty shit. Anyway, I said what I needed to, unless Shan and I are liars, KG had waited for a couple months, even after we made the BaaL mix, so he was very patient, I think about 3 months passed before he decided to make the mix.

KG has recently carried a lot of weak mixers weight, I can understand why he would be annoyed, dude's a infinity soldier!

Ferdowsi

IF BaaL TOLD ME FROM THE FIRST DAY THAT HE WASNT GONNA MIX ON IT THE MIX WOULD HAVE BEEN OUT IN NO TIME. BAAL MADE ME WAIT 2 MONTHS TO SAY THAT... THIS FUCKED UP EVERYTHING BECAUSE I HAD ALL SECTIONS CUT OUT AND PASTED TOGETHER AND I HAD TO START ALL OVER WHEN BALL SAID THAT TO ME 2 MONTHS AFTER WE DECIDED TO COLLAB.

listen to your mixes and listen to mine, its not pretty nuts.
If you spend some time on your shit it would also sound good.
I can mix really fast if i really want...
shit i made that 360 one in the sun mix a few days later i received the vocals and its still the best 360 mix, ask SUN.
I dont need to spend months on a mix to make it good.
When i make something i spend a day on it all day and make it.
some bars take longer then others.
im not gonna chop 50 bars in 20 min thats amateur shit.

Thats not how BaaL said it nor is it the way I remember it.

You flipped out, said you aren't mixing, all the people on your tape took it as you aren't completing it, you said you will delete your account and other things of this nature.

BaaL then asked Me and Shan if we would prefer to use the same verse he'd began. Its because you let him down he decided he wanted to mix with people who are about the mixing and the love and getting the job done.

Its all well and good these debates Oobe, if you can keep it respectful and lady like, we can get to the bottom of this. You would need to ask BaaL himself why, however, KG is not the only one from that project in question who had to take his bars elsewhere and re-use them because you fell through.

The way I see reality, you have more control changing yourself than you ever will have changing yourself, you can put your energy all into manipulation like you do, or, have more control and change yourself to not be so hating constantly Oobe, and if you feel like you've taken too much work, simply say, don't attack people just to have a way out and then claim later you are the best and we slow you down! You've slowed down a lot of other mixers who are just here for the love, in a weird sick way you are here for the love also, have respect for your fellow mixers, you wouldn't like it if someone did that to you.

Peace,

Ferdowsi

I finished my genabis verse, no return verse, PE verse & the mseacresy verse.
I finished everything, I only had to replace jvln fngz and that part is nearly done aswell.
ima drop everything on my own once yall drop this tape. i'm not slowing anyone down, yall aint even moving , theres nothing to slow down.


and baal apologized to me on msn months ago for making me wait that long, so its all good.
im just mad that KG is lying saying that i aint manage to finish my verse while i used it for something else + he posted my beat wich is also used for something else.
kg used his bars somewhere else because it took too long, but baal shouldnt have made me wait 2 months to say to me he wasnt gonna do it. so kg didnt have to do anything, he just likes to rush ppl for no reason.

the ONLY one who has reason to complain is white lotus but he is a man and he stayed quite.
I will thank him for his patience tho, dont worry vorple ima make you shine like never before.

Okay, now its a question of style.

First thing I'd like to say is Oobe, you've never sold any records, your first job isn't this. Okay, that would make you an Amateur.

As for style, when it comes to a chopped OUTSIDE the timeline mix, such as the one's I used on RTJoo mixtape and the KG and Shan collab as well as the Shan and BaaL collab, these generally take 3 sessions each, about 2 to 3 hours each. So 6 to 9 hours to do 16 bars, I believe that is reasonable.

So if someone says to me, "I take 2 to 3 hours on 1 bar", that would mean they spend about 32 solid hours on a 16, THATS CRAZY.

You want to put your opinion that my mixes are wack, I've been told and I have my own ear so I know what you say is rubbish and based at a hate for any other mixer because you see it as competition, its quite sad.

When it comes to TIMELINE MIXES, yes, I can make a 100 bar mix in about 5 to 8 hours. STILL, note, I do not take 20 mins, thats what YOU want others to believe, just because I put out 20 mixes in one month, because you don't have the stamina for it, don't think I spent 20 mins on each one, each one of my mixes has over 100 to 500 switches, aligned perfectly and in the timeline structure.

Anyway, you seem to think you are so special and the only one who is professional, I put the time and love into my mixes, the result shows and I am proud of my work, don't believe I am as insecure as you, just because you say I'm wack I'll be like NOOOOOOO SHIT, IM WACK! No, you are just a jealous little child who hates on every mixer who is better than you, I take your hate and obvious ignorance as a compliment and as a hint that I am mixing perfectly and I should continue down the path of infinity.

Aight, peace, hopefully the next reply you won't be up ya own ass so much,

Ferdowsi

lol at me amateur.
YALL ARE THE ONES USING PROFESSIONAL PROGRAMS LIKE ACID AND WHATNOT, I MAKE MY MIXES WITH THE MOST BASIC TOOLS LIKE WAVEPAD AND SHIT ON YALL HAHA.

AND I SAID, some bars TAKE LONGER THAN OTHERS.
some bars take minutes some bars take hours, dont generalize everything ferd.

I hate on your mixes Ferd, does that mean your "better" than me with mixing?? hahaha.
I hated on KI aswell in the past at his mixing, does that make him better than me??

oh my god........ yes your mixing perfectly ferd, keep doing it like youve always done, pls dont change

I take your hate and obvious ignorance as a compliment and as a hint that I am mixing perfectly and I should continue down the path of infinity.

^ this should be framed and sold online ^
you might be a great mind in the future, when ppl look back at this quote it will change their lives.

At infinity we are amateurs, as musicians we are amateurs, if we could convince people to pay for something thats FREE, then we would be professionals.

I see that as the main distinction between pro and learner.

Ferdowsi

I made a ploo verse for sick since's album wich will be sold everywhere soon.

but i dont agree ofcourse, we arent amateurs, we are beyond professionals, what we do no one does or can.
even tho they did it with Pac somehow on the eminem album...but what we specifically do , we are unique.
some ofcourse are better then others. but even doing it is enough to be in this category.

If you say so, I see it differently, I also don't think you are the best, but thats just what I like, you only bring that into question by declaring you are the best, I feel your own friend Jav Fangz is way better than you for example. His lyrics are way stronger, and for me thats what really matters, forget even how clean they sound, but he has that covered also. But thats just me, I personally like my own style because guess what, that's what I like, I create music first and foremost for the brotherhood and I to listen to, anyone beyond that is welcome to have a listen if they love Hip Hop, and have their opinion. Its just when their opinion is SO strong that it turns into hate when I realise its really love, and I'm glad you have this much passion in this. However, quit trying to make yourself feel better about letting others down by claiming you are the best and others are "slowing" you down.

We aren't all as insistent as you spending hours on social networking and making lots of wonderful virtual friends, I personally just spend my time mixing, enjoying life, worrying about bills and hoping for a better future, just like every other clown up in here.

Peace,

Ferdowsi

Well, i never talk shit behind the mixers back. I say what i say here publicly and directly to yall. However, right now i have nothing bad to say. If KG thinks i am a retard like the trolls who stalk me here, fine, KG...and even the trolls, have a right to their opinion of me. Opinion isnt truth. I have nothing bad to say about KG nor OOBE.



Im probably the worst overall PLoo mixer in the past 2 years, as i was just learning how to use music computer programs at the time i got into PLoo. I simply do not have the time to create epic 3 verse songs, 100's of mixes per year though. Im still learning many music cpu programs now and how to improve on PLoo word chopping (smoothness/bars.etc).



I agree with Ferd except i am not a amateur at Hip-Hop music. I have sold cds. I have performed shows. I can rep the 4 elements of Hip-Hop very well. I have made a little name for myself in my area. However, i am no professional either esp compared to somebody like Canibus or Stoupe. Im a moderate musician.

worrying about bills? you live with your MOM and you didnt have a job for over 6 years.
LOL, do something for your mom and stop spending your time writing pointless essays on a hiphop forum.
JVLN FNGZ is the ONLY one i truly respect FOR HIS MIXING, but he's an agent and that doesnt count, he probably got high trained aliens to do the job for him on some advanced high tech system to chop up rhymes.
I use basic tools, I use sticks and rocks to make my mixes and they are nearly as good as jvln fngz who uses high powered lasers and whatnot to make his stuff.

"Watch the snakes in the green grass plot to destroy my character"

I remember Oobe sent me "the best Sun mix yet" and I was amazed especially when she said the lyrics were chopped word for word. But when I got the vocals I realised it was only half bar chops, still a nice mix though.

I remember sending you the verse within a week of you sending me the beat about 8 months ago. And I must have waited several months for you to release it, and even though Baal wasn't gonna mix, you said your verse was complete haha. Eventually when it was pretty clear you weren't ever gonna release it, I told Shan that I'd just use the verse for this mix rather than wasting it. I distinctly remember telling you too, and you said it ain't a problem and that you'd release our mix a week later.

However, things all began to make sense when you told me on yahoo a few weeks back, that you rarely finish a mix you begin. You've got dozens of unfinished mixes, and are always getting new ideas, so you start mixing them instead and forget about the old ones. And I always thought Serpent Goddess was completed haha. What a fool I am. I suppose you had enough material to make an album sampler/snippet. Better than nothing I suppose. But, it's funny how you pretend to sit on unfinished albums etc while desperately attempting to finish them. Remember your one mix a week thread. What was that? Was it your attempt at motivating yourself to complete an unfinished mix a week. But regardless of anything that has been said, I honestly do hope you will one day finish all your mixes and I'll gobble them all up in an instant.

The only reason I released it on this beat now, is to see your response. So thanks for the entertainment. This beat is ridiculous so thanks again Oobe. It's a shame you didn't have the courage to mix a verse alongside mine, oh sorry it's because I wasn't good enough. But thanks for being so considerate Oobe. I'd hate to get completely arse raped on a mix like you did by JVLN FNGZ on The Fountainhead. I appreciate that Oobe. It's funny how you never mention that JVLN mixed the first verse on youtube. Wonder why? I've also noticed that you forget to mention that Zambo actually makes "your" beats after you send him the sample. Why is this Oobe? Are you getting forgetful in your young age.

I'll always be a fan of your mixes Oobe, but I'm really glad I don't have to have any involvement with you again. You are the biggest time waster ever and I thought the prospect of mixing alongside Bis would motivate you (can't believe you fell for that one) to actually get the mixes done. I'm just gonna download anything you eventually drop and enjoy listening to them as I enjoy listening to every1 elses mixes. I know mixing is your life, and you put all your effort into them, but I just wished you had the ability to start and finish a mix without getting a new idea or getting stuck for creativity. It's a pity you've become so good, that you can't release a mix with anything slightly choppy on it, but this is clearly affecting your creativity. How many bars must you throw away Oobe? Keep the mixes coming Oobe, that's all I care about. It's just a shame you have barely finished a mix this year. You were on fire in 08 and it was very inspiring. But, I think your quest to one day match JVLN has spoiled PLOO for you and us listeners ain't been getting shit as a result. Don't put so much pressure on your self Oobe. What did Bis say, "Never under pressure I keep pressure under me". Follow those words Oobe. You'll get through this.

HA.

Acting as if you know who I am, I haven't had a job in 6 years? WTF?

I've been a managing director, a cleaner, worked in a supermarket, a pizza delivery guy, a pizza maker and also been at uni for 2 of them years.

You know nothing about me so quit begging you do, because trust me, you are making guesses without a clue. The only thing you are right about is living with my family, which I have done so by choice, my family are all moving in a month to another country and it was my last chance to do so, I'm actually moving out this weekend and they will leave the country the week after, end of an era, I won't get a chance to see my family for another 6 months, and probably never live with them again.

As for the last 6 years, only 1 of them years I've lived with my family, ever since I was 18 up til 25, I spent a total of 1 and a half years living with family, the rest I lived independently while WORKING for myself. You couldn't work ONE DAY like me, forget about trying to belittle me or try and put me down, as if thats going to happen, I would feel real pitiful if I were you, you probably attack me because you hate your own position.

Anyway, glad I cleared that up for the 15th time, you love chatting shit about me as if you knew me, you look very foolish in this thread, and FAR FAR FROM A PROFESSIONAL. You aren't even close to being that my dear friend.

Any more straws to clutch on Miss professional? Miss I live with my brother and my parents pay for my life? Miss I can't get a job except to sell weed because I am addicted to drugs? Peace,

Ferdowsi

what the hells going on here ahahaa

Quite simple, Oobe is making up stories, acting like she knows people, claiming she's the best mixer, that others are slowing her down, her life is the best, she's the coolest, the greatest.......and so on.

Anyone who says something different is wrong, so best stay quiet and not say anything out of line, I wonder what kinda mix she's trying to get out of with this, she does this every few months, everyone here knows her for it!

Peace,

Ferdowsi

I never knew what you guys were talking about , now I do.

bet this shit dont happen at joe buddens forum lol

Nope. You won't get it on any artists forums unless they actually spit about something real and profound.

You should ask people who use to be on tech forums a few years back thou, they all know Oobe. This drama around Oobe is everywhere she goes, which leads to the conclusion that OBVIOUSLY everyone else on the planet is wrong and the only person who is right is............OOBE!

Yea, that makes sense,

Ferdowsi

lmao! Sorry just had to quote that.

Off topic, but if you need 6 more bars on PL2 i can make and send them in 24 hours like the last 6. Anyway, Peace...

According to Sun it IS the best mix yet.
It is heavily chopped aswell. It's a pity ppl cant understand what I do with the vocals....


It's a real shame you posted the beat while you knew I used it for another mix.


Theres no point on giving ppl my masterpiece if 99% cant appreciate what i do with the lyrics.
Ask mayan84 and others on this forum who have the serpent goddess album.
The only song that needs to be finished is the mermaids oath, the lyrics are done, the oly thing i need to finish is the chorus from elle madison.

you are mean, you cant rip anyone you think way too high of yourself.
I CHALLENGE YOU NOW to do a mix ME VS YOU.
you want to accept this challenge or are u gonna back out like you did on the MK tournament where you were too affraid to join because MY name was on the roster.

your just mad cuz canibus called the fountainhead the best mix ever.
if it wasnt for ME that song would not excist.
I really hate you, you are mean. I did my best on it like i did with everything else.
I dont have professional programs like jvln fngz.


You can ask zambo who made the hero beat.
He teached me everything i need to know.
your just making assumptions now.


jvln fngz is trying to match me. but he can't keep up.
this is the ONLY real battle in LIFE.
Me vs jvln fngz, nothing else matters.
we both know this and im winning. I always win. and in the end he WILL be defeated and he will perish.
He is the dark entity that excists in this realm and im his opposite.
we both know that none of yall matter. its only Oobe vs jvln fngz.
you are just human KG, we are ageless beings fighting forever.
Hes trying to steal YOUR soul KG, while im here trying to HELP YOU and free all the others that he has stolen.

anyway, im done posting mixes on here...
im only gonna post it on myspace & youtube and ppl will get NO download links.
unless the ppl i want to get them

Can I?

lol.....I know you ferd...we had deep convos way back and you didnt had a job for many years........
your pathetic, you live off your sick mom and are too lazy to get off your ass.

dont worry about me, i only have to show my ass and guys will do ANYTHING for me, i have it easy, I wish i was rich but I use my female touch to get anything i want. and 99% of the time i get what i want in real life.
you horny sexed up guys are losers...do anything for some sex. onyl sex sex sex in your head. nothing else.

jvln fngz is trying to match me. but he can't keep up.
this is the ONLY real battle in LIFE.
Me vs jvln fngz, nothing else matters.
we both know this and im winning. I always win. and in the end he WILL be defeated and he will perish.
He is the dark entity that excists in this realm and im his opposite.
we both know that none of yall matter. its only Oobe vs jvln fngz.
you are just human KG, we are ageless beings fighting forever.
Hes trying to steal YOUR soul KG, while im here trying to HELP YOU and free all the others that he has stolen.

I think about more things....

You're really a girl? oh. Not ever guy is like that, Plus there is no proof that acutally happens.

BOObe, you had your chance for a battle on Snakes but you bottled it. This comment is the last bit of attention you are getting from me. All the best in life xxx

I wrote a lot and I had to go back and edit, you aren't worth all them words to explain my situation.

You do not know me, just cause you talked to me a bit on msn.

All I will say I'm 25 and I'm someone who single handly has created a business which had a turnover of over $1million, that was off my own hard work. After that I decided to take a year off, going to see family in Canada spending half a year there. I knew I was going back to uni and wanted a change of pace.

You don't know me, quit begging you do, as KG said, I wish you well, fucking people on these forums are obsessed to claim they know who I am and what I'm about!

Ferdowsi

Truthfully oobe does make powerful mixes that motivate me to listen to ploo all day.

KG's style is a style that really makes u think.

Ferdowsi mastered the timeline mixing.

K.I. i still listen to that ploov7 u made to this day shit is still beast

I know its a shitload of other mixers but I LOST all of my mixes my terabyte external GONE. All I had was the ones on my ps3 and the ones on my youtube.

My point is all ya'll that are still making mixes keep me impressed. All of u made mixes that touched me when i was in a sad state.

So differences aside since i haven't been on here in a while had to let ya'll all know them last few mixes all of u mad touch me. I dont know about any new mixes since the summer but im bout to get the listening I know its been some fire in the last two months but judging from all the energy on this thread. Seems like everyone mad at each other again. I'll let ya'll settle that but one thing is for sure ploo proved by far how powerful it is.

Thx, much appreciated...



Agreed bro...Peace to you...

whats with all this drama going on?

shit needs to quit.

peace yall!