I was just reading this article and I thought it was awesome seeing not one, but three of Bis' albums on there. Mic Club is #1, Rip The Jacker is #2, and For Whom The Beat Tolls is #8

http://www.epinions.com/content_5187477636


8. Canibus – For Whom the Beats Toll (2007)

What can be said of Poet Laureate Infinity? Brilliant, ambitious, groundbreaking, earth-shattering, intricate and intriguing? The two versions found here are undoubtedly the two pillars of Canibus’ tenth offering, yet with multiple listening, we ultimately see the art and ingeniousness of the rest of the album as well. Witness a mature poet with lots to say and an impactful way to say it.

One song: Poet Laureate Infinity v003 & v004

One quote: “Take my beloved rap music, erase the beat
Consumers act like they're afraid of intelligent speech”


2. Canibus – Rip the Jacker (2003)

Canibus’s Requiem in the form of a poem (accompanied by music.) The poet exhibits frailty as he tries to piece together the fragmented part of his life, emotions, thoughts and career and exhibit more wisdom in each few lines than most artist hope to aspire in a whole album, if not discography.

One song: Poet Laureate II

One quote: “The article is substantially impressive, more than a message
A working thesis from several different perspectives”


1. Canibus – MicClub: The Curriculum (2002)

The transitional album between the hard-nosed angry MC and the more “zen” poet who has accepted his fate and is somewhat beyond, yet ironically beginning, trying to be great, finds the right balance in being able to captivate, cultivate & elevate. This precise mix of maturity and unblemished youthful zel finds the listener completely compelled and propelled to heights never before reached.

One song: Master Thesis

One quote: “You can't rhyme forever, there's always somebody with better sh*t”

…

Very true, but well, not yet, so keep on rhyming…
This humbleness and perspective of one’s time and place is what I call Hip Hop redefining.

its written by casestudy who is a member of CC

lol bias

I wonder if he'd say samethings today. Much like Zaf, CS seems bitter towards Bis as well.

Yeah, Bis has somewhat of a fanbase on Eps. And Bis reads it too, or at least he's read my stuff (but then again, when I review a Bis album on eps, I end up posting it here anyways).

CS is very bitter, so bitter he'd rather hurt than help, he has been trying to fuck up the whole Canibus movement the best he can, the reason is to simply keep those few Canibus fans of old happy, if them 10 guys were happy with Canibus then he'd be the perfect artist.

Anyway, from what I know is that CaseStudy had an account on SpitBoss, then I see him talk mad shit and hate about SpitBoss as well as a few tracks being leaked via cc.net inexplicably, then I see his account deleted. I don't know if they banned him but I wouldn't be shocked, bis today is about good people and using the love and energy to elevate together.

A lot of old Canibus fans tend to have ignorant minds, they see him as a cult leader and feel he's brainwashing people by simply injecting a love of Hip Hop back into them, it is the effect of Hip Hop, but others feel they love and respect Hip Hop the most and if anyone else does they must be "gay" or something. Having seen CaseStudy act like that as well as knowing what Zaf is like, its a wonder these people listen to Hip Hop, because they act bitch, which in Hip Hop is the weakest way to be.

Canibus has an interest in his fanbase like no other MC, the reason is simple, the style he is trying to use is to ignite the audience to remix and get involved in the cipher, like never before, as bis said his rhymes are cerebral, and for the listener very interactive, bis does this better than any other MC, hands down. For all that bis does badly if you are to believe the media and a failure to make great music for the masses, he makes music on a personal level whcih makes the listener feel part of the game, and with time he has molded that into SpitBoss and a real setting, that shows some serious mastery of Poetry.

You see, you won't see many "fans" being appreciative of this, these people listened to bis since 98 and they feel just because of that they should have more emphasis within the game, but, they appear not to want to put anything in and just hate anyone who is playing to get attention, when they don't get it, they act even more bitch, its very feminine and very sad. I heard the problem CS feels of Canibus is that he talks to people as a human being and on a level and he shouldn't do that and he "brainwashes" fans, however, from what I understand, Bis has never spoken to CaseStudy like that, or in any real format, so a clear reason why this dude acts like that emerges.

Its funny watching CaseStudy fuck up his future on SpitBoss before it even began just to impress a few fella's on the internet and talk madness and hate, no remorse, probably right now feels justified, all cause Canibus wouldn't hold his hand, rather sick if you ask me.

Ferdowsi

damn that's a shame.

Its a shame how hateful Bis fans get, we ALL know how PROGRESSIVE and MOTIVATING listening to Bis music is, and thats what 99% of the listeners get, a raw dose of Hip Hop that keeps them high and happy because there isn't anything in the world as beautiful as Hip Hop.

Anyway, point being, what does bis get in return from the same people he's been motivating for years? The exact OPPOSITE treatment, words to make him feel DEMOTIVATED and DEGRESSIVE!

If Bis now is attempting to work the audience into his writtens and make his work cerebral, while giving the average listener a chance to jump into the cipher via PLOO and other infinite rhymes, its more than obvious that bis wants a similar energy given back to him than he omits, this in turn will continually happen and will be a perpetual motion machine, continually raising the spirits of the fan base and the artists, to continue to push the quality and style to the highest known form.

A REAL Canibus fan would be thankful of what unique Hip Hop set up and structure Bis has been able to create, how the style itself as well as the boosted confidence has seen him work once again with some of the greats of the game, how he's openning the door for many others and attempting to connect with many artists to improve them as well as his own work.

What gets me about CaseStudy is that he has a PhD, someone as educated as this you would feel would be able to control his hateful emotions and understand them better, you would think someone like this would be more conscious and happy that Bis is still doing his damn thing, instead this pitiful man just wants to go around chatting shit constantly, then he'll quite easily diss other rippers and put others down so he'll look cool in front of his CC bretherin who are worried about a failing forums, while SpitBoss.com, a site filled with REAL Mc's, producers and so on are getting busy and expanding, I don't know to what end CS stupidity begins or ends, however, I denote any academic institution which would give this baffoon any qualifications.

Lord help the stupid, don't give them books, give em common sense!

Ferdowsi

well my bad yall i had no idea about any of this; didnt mean to shed light on the past

Dante don't believe everything he says...

Then where is CS to say otherwise?

I attempted to ask CS directly why he's acted like this in the past, to which he replied that he spoke to lou lombard and I don't know anything. FOR ALL WE KNOW, LL paid CS to tarnish his image. It would make a lot more sense than someone being that bitch and butt hurt towards bis just because he doesn't like how an artist is controlling his own career, isn't that a bit stanish?

Weird how its some other strange person from CC.net who comes to his defence, the same people who fed off someone trying to hate on the movement, and now here to defend the queer.

Ferdowsi

As a long time Canibus fan who has checked this forum almost daily for years, I have to say that my appreciation of this site has been dramatically reduced due to your participation.

From a dude who stands in the bushes to catch cheaters for work, I take this as a great compliment.

2000 plus bars of new PLOO, rippers who come for new music and bars know the deal, you're just some dude who comes on once in a blue moon for off topic and you ain't about the music so you aren't my concern, join another forum, there are plenty on the internet joey.

Much more likely you are someone's alias, this website is infamous for them and anyone who checks this site knows that, what with your username, I wouldn't be shocked.

Peace

Ferdowsi

I'm only going to address this once because I won't get into a back and forth pissing contest.
1) You don't know anything about me, so for you to make the statement "you ain't about the music" is erroneous.
2) I check this site for updates on Bis. I don't care about mixes (for the most part). It's all well and good you enjoy doing your mixes, I'm not hating on that. It's the fact that you have personally turned off so many people from this website with your tendency to defend every single thing Canibus does, coupled with the fact that you apparently believe you are the gatekeeper to being a real Canibus fan. Your response is typical. Somehow you have determined that I am not a 'real fan', that I come by "once in a blue moon" (read my post?), and that I am "not about the music". You are just generally a hypocrite (you CONSTANTLY criticize other people for being negative etc yet your posts often are rife with negativity).
3) I am not an alias, nice try though.

All I know is that ever since this Hafiz/Ferfowsi bullshit started, this forum has become less about Canibus, and more about the "Canibus movement" (?). Whatever though. I will still check this site for updates on the artist who I am a fan of. Unfortunately I'll have to sift through your psuedo-intellectual bullshit.
cheers

cool find Dante, but yo wheres the jmt albums?

VBD gotta be at least top 10

not my list eyes; if it was, it would look a lot different

haha

What would your list look like?

yea I know, I was just saying....I think they left alota good albums offa it but VBD is one of those classic must have LPs that first came into my mind. Then to have Micclub above RTJ......I like Micclub, but better than rtj? Not so sure about that....





Ferd jus stop it already. Old canibus fans have ignorant minds? what are u talking about? They think hes brainwashing ppl by injecting love into hip hop? No I think thats one of the reasons why they love bis, is cuz they know he represents that real hip hop and raps for the love of it, and not the money or anything else. Ferd you need to stop attacking ppl and living in the past. As I said before you should be one of the main ppl setting a good example for everybody by Not attacking ppl and learning how to forgive them for their mistakes. If case study did something wrong, thats on him, no one is in any position to judge him or his actions, so dont take it so personal. At the end of the day, no matter how many mixes u make, how many posts u make, your a just fan equal to everybody else, flaws and all. So instead of attacking other fans, try to empathize with them and be nice

cuz they know he represents that real hip hop and raps for the love of it, and not the money or anything else

Word up eyes.

Whats it got to do with being the "perfect canibus fan"? I use logic to say is this normal or not, is it normal behaviour to hate what someone is doing rather than sitting back and watching? Thats what I asked.

You just clearly said, you aren't here for infinity, CC changed since PLOO dropped to make this place what it is, if you don't like it, don't blame me, BLAME CANIBUS.

If you quite clearly listen to FWTBT's and PLOO, much of the goal of them was to change this place, so to say I changed this place greatly, it really makes some of the things that have been said to me from all corners make a lot more sense.

Canibus himself personally thanked me for changing CC and told me with a few months of me breaking down lyrics and making the small but powerful minority of this place once again focused on the lyrics. I mainly talk about LYRICS, so to say you have to sift thru, thats your prerogative, but doesn't make it everyone elses. Like I said, I have mixed the most PLOO, so your daily visitation of CC has stopped, well, I can tell you Canibus was very thankful with how I changed this place, seeming its a website dedicated to his work, I would say his words outweigh yours, wouldn't you? *THATS LOGIC, NOT ME DEFENDING CANIBUS, USE LOGIC TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION*

And like I said, its not my fault you don't like the mixes, I do, I come here and mix and drop my opinion because I am in the right place, you've checked this site probably once in a blue moon, posting 130 times in 3 years, and you want me to know you? Did I say I do? I said, you may be an alias, and you seem like you don't care about the music, which is true, you would prefer this place be filled with people chatting shit and hate and then you won't have to sift thru the hate because it'll be filled with it.

Anyway, to go back to you thinking I attempt to defy "how to be a good canibus fan", thats crazy dude, obviously you haven't read any of my posts to make that claim, I use logic to try and understand the actions of others here, its what we do in any situation to try better understand people. You want to go deeper and say its me trying to say whats to be the best canibus fan, but in reality I am saying don't be a fan, be involved in the cipher, don't be hateful, because there is much more to life, not about being a Canibus fan, but being a FERDOWSI AND HAFIZ FAN!

Have you ever read a Hafiz poem? Or any of the Shahnameh? Or are you ignorant to these poets yet feel like you know why I am the way I am or why I am filled with energy. These are books about honour, poetry and the love of poetry and how poetry is the connection to God. For me Poetry and Hip Hop are something that is sacred, thats my belief, nothing to do with being a Canibus fan. It's my religion! I would use the same logic to break down a real life situation than I would use to talk to you, or determine if its normal for someone like CaseStudy to hate on the movement we have all together built with the love we put into this, my love is a part of that, so obviously I will have an opinion, are you trying to tell me I CANT have an opinion? What are you attempting to do other than be judge me without anything to back up your claims.

And please, don't lie about me spoiling CC, blame the people who made CC about ME! Instead of concentrating on the sections they always had, because I was talking about the lyrics and saying they were more, I was dissed, do you see what is happening now? Much of what I first said in 2007 before Infinity dropped is now becoming true, so is it more the fact you hate me or the fact I am right about the majority of the movement and how it has rolled out? And the fact I have some small part to play in this rolling rock? Is it my fault you dislike Infinity yet the Canibus man and generally a lot of Hip Hoppers around the world love it also? I don't see how that would annoy you, why it would annoy you that someone says we should work together to save Hip Hop.

Anyway, keep living in a fantasy where you hate me and you blame CC.net and other things on me, but reality is, I'm for anyone who's attempting to save Hip Hop because I believe it is sacred and its something that would die without conscious love and commitment, if you don't understand that or me as a person, don't hate on me and find it difficult to solidify even one example. You probably read 1 word I've written and 5 pages of what CC.net has to say about me, thats not me claiming to know you, but me attempting to understand the level of hate for someone who puts nothing but love into the movement. I remember one of the first things that people hated about OO was that it was a movement, they made their normal disses that Canibus's cult following were being exploited, 2 years on we've created our own art, you should respect and love what we do and instead to step with content really begs the question, what are you afraid of?

Soon as you can supply an example I would say you have some justification, but it honestly sounds like you've just listened to someone bitch about me and you've agreed rather than having your own thoughts because they don't add up, however, you set off Eye's very well, the same guy who posts that Canibus is a satanist, who I've never attempted to "stop" except say its crazy. There is an example of someone being hateful but its none of my business, it is my business if you decide to diss me, if you push hate on my name, thats different, maybe you mean the fact I protect my neck and I don't let someone just chat shit when its not logic or doesn't add up?

Much love for real rippers, but it doesn't seem like you are, not because I defend what it is even though Canibus refers to me as his SWORDZMEN, but because you are ignorant and you have to make up lies to try and justify your hate, maybe a simple question of what you are afraid of? Change? I've been on CC since 2000/1, way before you my friend and if you knew what CC was before, you would understand nowadays CC is actually a lot better than before, because it was just a site filled with hate, its not like that anymore. You hate me because I represent the infinity concept, not because I stand up for what Canibus does, I don't do that, I support what Canibus does as I am a fanatic as you are, I defend myself, I disrespect those who disrespect themselves, if you use that formulae when you speak to me, you'll realise thats just how I be, oh, plus, I LOVE FUCKING POETRY, Pun intended, splendid.

Ferdowsi

How did I judge him? He hated on a movement I am a part of and I put love into, I need not judge him, it appears someone else did that. I replied to someone's comment that Case is very strange now and seems to be filled with hate, I expanded on it using the knowledge I had, I used my logic to try and understand better why this person is so filled with hate for someone I put love into.

I can understand its not something you put love into so its easy for you to say don't have an opinion, everyone here has an opinion and you let it loose all the time, yet you want me not to have one? Or allow some people to talk bootay behind my back yet if I say a word to say that the way they behave is stanish, I am somehow in the wrong?

No, I am saying this is Hip Hop, we should have love for one another as we create this and make this together, we should be conscious because if Hip Hop is constant evolution then only divinity would ensure the change is evolution rather than devolution if one was unconscious.

You may think its cool to post hateful things about me and you've told me you want me dead and all this other madness, I never reply to you with nothing but love, I would do the same to CaseStudy, if he were man enough to debate with us all, but he isn't, is he? Instead, 4 people have defended him, and attacked me because I question why someone would rather hate on the movement rahter than love, and not one of you have given a logical reason for ANYONE to do this, only reasons why you hate Ferdowsi, which is old isn't it?

Ferdowsi

someone close this thread...its having the opposite effect i intended

stop bickerin yall; we all have a deep respect for canibus, lets not complicate things

I WONDER WHO TURNED THIS THREAD INTO SHIT AGAIN...
I know you know

Here,

If you wanna debate or have actions to account please do tell. I ain't what people say or think.

I would love a debate, would you? If do, please keep it short and to the point, opening statement limited to a paragraph. I see all the perspectives, do you?

Case Study

p.s. I didn't write that.

edit: post a thread or message me on dot net. I'd rather not do it on here, I'm not who or what you think.

If CS isn't what he says, he can come here and talk for himself.

Simple as that, as if anyone cares enough to go seek him out, there's plenty of disgruntled fanatics on CC.net, I don't see why CaseStudy seems to think he's any better except the fact he spoke to LL once and now he has hate for anyone or anything related Canibus, including music and people.

Good luck to him, I have nothing against the dude, just telling it how it is, if its not that way, nobody is stopping him from explaining, not that many care. I just noted something another user noticed, and its true, and its something I noticed on SB the other day, that CS's account got deleted, I know this cause I got an email to add him as a friend and when I logged on it was gone. Figured a good time to elaborate, if CS wants to debate, thats nice, last time I attempted to talk to him privately, he came over as very arrogant and rude, very much a completely different person I met on these same boards over 7 years ago now.

Peace,

Ferdowsi

If anyone scrolls through this who isn't somehow encaptured inn the wave of hate a few people on these forums are, they will see that I've logically expanded on a topic, to the author and his opinion changing because its about his opinions.

The only people who have turned this thread to shit are those using hate and prophanity, as well as touching on things which are off topic.

Again, you're trying to defend CaseStudy, the dude has a PHD, no joke, a PH FUCKING D, you really think he needs some egotistical dude named Mr.LA to speak for him? He's more than able, so really, the only person who would turn this thread to shit is anyone who didn't have anything to really contribute except for hate and no real information.............WAIT, that would be YOU, wouldn't it?

I will also add that this post as well as all the others were based on logic, not hate, not even love, nothing but logic, I am using this because its something I am sure CaseStudy surely appreciates.

Ferdowsi

Rip the jacker is definitly in my top 3 (probably the only bis album in my top 20 tho)
theres allot of albums i really love, need to think it thru...
heres a few i really love, probably forgot allot tho...

Blackalicious - The Craft
Pumpkinhead - Orange Moon Over Brooklyn
Black Market Militia - The Black Market Militia LP
Killah Priest - Heavy Mental/The Offering
Canibus - Rip The Jacker
Atma - Beyond The Speed of Mind
Immortal Technique - Revolutionary 1 & 2
Lost Children of Babylon - Where Light Was Created: The Equidivium & Words From The Duat: The Book Of Anubis
Cunninlynguists - A Piece of Strange
Bad Karma - Wild Fire
Jedi Mind Tricks - Psycho Social...

many more but i cant think of them all right now...

Hey Elizabeth, Oobe thats a good list.

you liked the psycho social more than the other jmt albums? idk, for some reason psycho social and violent by design are my least favorite beat-wise...lyrically they excel beyond the rest tho. but i just love the beats stoupe started doin in visions of ghandi, legacy of blood, servants, etc; even though vinnie simplified his flow a bit.

good list yo, i actually havent heard a few of these! guess i needa step my game up. i love the underground man haha

present and accounted for,

I am not disgruntled or any of things you state. I am not better than anyone and it wasn't once, stopping hanging on it. Damn, you wanna talk to him, just ask and I'll drop his info. I think it might be your perspective. What do I have to explain? AND TO WHO? You? Shan? OR CANIBUS? My account did not get deleted in the way you think. I canceled my account, voluntarily, after a 5 month trial. Where does your head go now? Damn, Case Study is the most hate filled Eaters of the Dead, but cancels his account? You could say, well you canceled your account before it would be deleted. OR you might say, you might not be the person I thought. Money does not matter to me, I could make 20 SB accounts if I wanted to the leak the material.

I will address other things stated:

-I am not bitter or angry. Quite honestly, I don't know why I would be. I understand it is natural for some to come to this conclusion when they are unable to understand the view from a different person.
-I am not trying to mess up any movement. I believe there are more effective means.
-I never leaked those tracks till I saw that Bis video. I actually messages Shan with names of dudes doing it and names I would look at. I messaged Shan how to go about tracking and figuring out who it was. My post you refer to was more of a message to Bis. If you don't care that your music gets leaked, then why should I or anybody. I actually never thought it was a negative, but I figured if Bis doesn't like it, then what the hell. How does that label feel about Bis doing that? BUT see you can't answer or see these questions.
-If Canibus needs help, he will ask. That's my view from day 2. You think Canibus would get enough of the do this and do that shit.
-I never cared or wanted Canibus to shake my hand. I don't care to impress anyone, again, my whole history demonstrates the opposite.
-Please don't question my degrees or the institutions and work I put in to get them. I don't see any relation to Canibus. There are a million people with no degrees that baffle me. There are a million people with degrees that baffle me, obviously in a different manner. See, why would I say that? A degree does not matter in this case. Why would an intelligent person tell people intelligence does not matter. Why hung up on degree? Usually it comes from people who haven't completed school? Please, say this isn't you.
-Lou was a Sunday. When did that become your Pearl Harbor event? Lou could not pay me nor could Bis. Pay not necessarily a monetary value. See, I don't get why you state things like LL paid him when obviously that's not what happened.

You wanna talk about Canibus thanking you. I'll make your head spin, Canibus likes or liked, at one second of one moment of one day of his life, how I told the truth. Actually, that's what people like about me, on or off line. I'm sure we could all see positive qualities in each other, shouldn't that be what you take away from it though instead of Canibus said this Canibus said that, he is not the authority.


- I might be very strange, maybe that's why you can't see where I coming from. If so, I apologize for being something different than you. I am not full of hate, again, if anything my history demonstrates the opposite. It's all perspective. Damn, look I'm a unique snowflake, aren't we cute?

I have nothing against you either. I actually think it's quite despicable what happened with that picture.

Wanna debate? PLEASE, Think about it for a few seconds. Is this really what you want? OR merely answers to questions you are unable to formulate?Like I said to Shan, I would love to debate, would you?

Topics: Spit Boss, Undergods, any subject you or anyone wants.


the original Poet Laureate,

Case Study

Okay, we went around the world and back and now you're ready to debate, great.

Firstly, I doubt bis does care about a few tracks getting leaked, its more of a SpitBoss thing, where users make agreements not to leak music, if they do I know the outcome isn't positive for them.

I assumed your account was deleted because its not there anymore, I got an email to ask to add you as a friend and then when I logged on it was gone, I did not know of ANY 5 month trial, you joined just before they upgraded ALL members to 1 year, so I honestly don't have a clue what 5 month trial you were on that all the rest of the users were not on. UNLESS, you decided that you'd cancel your account before the 1 years was up because you thought that was the best thing to do? I haven't asked anyone on spitboss or shan or anyone, I go on my own opinions.

If you remember I quoted some of your favorite persons quotes on your wall to put you into reflection of some of the hateful things you have done in the past.

What I find funny is your constant desire to speak to Canibus or debate with him, I am not Canibus and I do not speak for him or Shan, whatever you told Shan is all well and good, why you felt you shouldn't go on a witch hunt to find who leaked the music, thats all well and good, but, you are one of only very few members of that site who ARE members of SpitBoss and have acted in a certain way in the past which would make others suspect that it may be you, would you not agree with this analysis?

KNOWING this you write an article as a "whistleblower", yea, SURE, that doesn't make you seem suspect in the slightest.

So let me get this straight, you thought, ok, bis doesn't CARE if his music gets leaked, I know its not me but I find it weird how he expects me to protect his rights, so to prove to him its got nothing to do with me, I'll disrespect the movement he's been supporting for the last few months.

Where did logic come into any of this? I wish to ask this question because I can't see any.

As for SpitBoss, you systematically broke down why you felt in 5 months it hadn't given back anything to its users, although.....................YOU'RE THE ONLY USER THUS FAR TO THINK SO.............FUNNY THAT ISN'T IT?????

Why don't we ask say, Dante, or Poetic, or Damo, or Presto, or SS, or..................AND SO ON.

You aren't an MC or offer any services to the community, to those who are only thinking about monetary gain then I would FOR SURE say that SpitBoss is more about Spiritual gain than money, those who fail to understand the love of Hip Hop and the community will always look at the $35 as some sort of con artists pyramid scheme, and thats fair enough, BUT WHY LISTEN TO THAT CON ARTIST FOR 10 YEARS, when he comes and asks you for $35 for a front row seat to watch madness, he becomes a con artist?

And lets break it down, what you got for $35, you got ONE YEARS membership, not 5 months, nobody got 5 months, the front page of SpitBoss says 3 months, $35, so how did YOU manage to suscribe to something that is QUARTERLY for only 5 months? It doesn't add up, does it Mr. Study, maybe a tad more studying before replying was what the Dr. ordered?

I say what I do about Lou(LL) as a logical person, I see you as a positive member of the community for over 6 years, me, personally. PLOO drops, you start becoming cynical, more cynical than you've been but to be fair you were progressively becoming that. Then, you speak to Lou, someone we all know has had negative experiances with Canibus in Business and suddenly you come on here and you become outright disrespectful. THEN, you come back, you see SpitBoss is here, you JOIN, and wait for 5 months to drop negativity about the whole project, possibly even leaking tracks, only for about 10 people on CC.net to read so you can impress them, for you their opinion outweighs not only Canibus but the actual ACTIVE and PROGRESSIVE section of his fanbase. I come to the conclusion of impressing the .netters being important by way of logic, also knowing and being conscious that doing something here on CC.com wouldn't even be welcomed.

Anyway, what you just said doesn't add up, logically, I can respect that you are different, I never said I don't, I use to have positive things to say about you just like I did about weapon X for example, things change, people change. As for the .netters, they can edit my picture all they like, in reality it doesn't show my character, but theirs, that they have hate for me but the reason for that hate is really love and that I represent in a strange way a challenge to what they love. And even with you dude, I'm about love, I want you to come here and debate so people CAN know what the hell is wrong with you, in a logical sense. Everything adds up, EVERYTHING, so if I make a claim its to make the situation add up, what you are saying doesn't add up, I suggest you either come up with some better lies or try and remember better the sequence of events, either way, make it add up and you'd have a better chance that people would believe you rather than seeming sly.

As for SpitBoss, I think if you consider how long projects take and the fact there isn't even 1 project yet that has been fully completed on there yet for the general public, you will find that most users on SpitBoss are EXTREMELY happy, actual artists, and seeming they have experiance in the music industry they respect these things take time and its one of the reasons I feel that we were all given extended memberships. Beyond that, its already begun, since you left, to start bringing the community together and the love thats flowing through that place is BRILLIANT!

Peace,

Ferdowsi

You have already lost by engaging. You should have left it alone.. I tried to put it in bold.


Firstly, I doubt bis does care about a few tracks getting leaked, its more of a SpitBoss thing, where users make agreements not to leak music, if they do I know the outcome isn't positive for them.

This has no meaning to me.


I assumed your account was deleted because its not there anymore, I got an email to ask to add you as a friend and then when I logged on it was gone, I did not know of ANY 5 month trial, you joined just before they upgraded ALL members to 1 year, so I honestly don't have a clue what 5 month trial you were on that all the rest of the users were not on. UNLESS, you decided that you'd cancel your account before the 1 years was up because you thought that was the best thing to do? I haven't asked anyone on spitboss or shan or anyone, I go on my own opinions.

Assumptions. I sent the friend request as a joke, like why are you even posting to me like I don't talk to you don't talk to me. It is my trial. It is not your trial. If I wanted to really be what you think, I would have kept the account and not said anything. That way I could leak the tracks for at least the next yr. Why would I cancel my account before the new albums? It is logical to know Bis will drop stuff on there soon.


If you remember I quoted some of your favorite persons quotes on your wall to put you into reflection of some of the hateful things you have done in the past.

I do remember. Give me specific hateful things I've done. Do you really want to engage?

What I find funny is your constant desire to speak to Canibus or debate with him, I am not Canibus and I do not speak for him or Shan, whatever you told Shan is all well and good, why you felt you shouldn't go on a witch hunt to find who leaked the music, thats all well and good, but, you are one of only very few members of that site who ARE members of SpitBoss and have acted in a certain way in the past which would make others suspect that it may be you, would you not agree with this analysis?

I have no desire. I state it that way because you don't get it, I don't care about your opinion and the only valid person with something to say is Canibus. And even Bis, I still don't care, he is your end all, not mine. That is the point. WHAT certain way have I acted in the past, are you still fishing for your opinion?



Whistleblower for the truth. Sometimes the truth needs to be known. Do you know the definition of whistleblower? I chose the appropriate word.



I don't understand this. And stop trying to think what I thought.



illogical.



You bore me. I am the only user to speak against it because I have nothing to gain and nothing to lose. That's why my view should if anything be considered valid. There are far more effective means.



Spiritual gain? See you limit yourself to hip hop and such, I do not. You limit yourself to Canibus, I do not. I don't even care to understand the last part.

What do you do outside of Ferdowsi? What do you in your off line actions that improve the Earth? improve your neighborhood? improve your family? Don't be so and actually post, these are questions for your own soul.



I said trial, my trial homie. Last part riddled with your own ego.



Logical. I am not motivated extrinsically like you. Your yrs are incorrect. Your time line is incorrect. I see, Pearl Harbor for you.

AGAIN, I don't care about the people or impress, I do everything to say the opposite. Your constantly saying, progressive and movement, but look what you dedicated your time to? You are simply the opposite of the ones that cause you distress. If you want to a movement a progression, learn how to bring people together.

You are hung up on the cc dot com cc dot net dot spitboss dot xpreen's new haven. THIS is all pointless. What you should be discussing is how can I bring all these members back to 1. You keep trying to drive that wedge which is against what your idol says and what you say.

Anyway, what you just said doesn't add up, logically, I can respect that you are different, I never said I don't, I use to have positive things to say about you just like I did about weapon X for example, things change, people change. As for the .netters, they can edit my picture all they like, in reality it doesn't show my character, but theirs, that they have hate for me but the reason for that hate is really love and that I represent in a strange way a challenge to what they love.

You are incorrect by all accounts. Nothing adds up to you because you are incorrect. Better idea, stop thinking of me.



I don't believe in SB. Do you understand? You read my whistleblower thread? I think it is for stupid people. I think it is shit. Segregating doesn't help.

Extended memberships weren't given for the reason you think. You are incorrect again.

I only read a few threads, but all I see is your name arguing or writing a prose to whoever will give you the time of day. U really think you helping it by your actions?

Would you really want to engage?

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I "lost"?

I think you will find you are lost if you think the point of debate is to "win", you lose everything if that is your opinion.

As for all the other crap you wrote, the fact you had to lie about your account being deleted really shows your character. I showed you logically why you were lying, you quoted all of that and didn't even explain why you would lie, if you had nothing to hide there would be NO REASON for you to need to lie.

I didn't read all of your drivel after you stated you think this is a "game" which you can "win" or "lose", however, I did read something about Canibus being my "end all", which is funny because you stated that Canibus didn't care about the tracks being leaked, for you that was end all, so seems like Canibus was YOUR end all, my end all is Hip Hop and poetry, SpitBoss is part of that, Canibus is a soldier for rhyme, something you wish to ignore and act like you are some form of soldier for Hip Hop, but, you aren't, far from it.

I won't bother engaging anymore with you, you've made yourself look foolish enough as it is, I guess in your world, I WIN! Ha. Ha.

Ferdowsi

I didn't lie about my account being cancelled. You like Canibus, but are unable to read or know the difference between cancel and delete. I openly stated hip hop is not my end. fuck, I hate hip hop and I hate the people that always use the word hip hop this hop hop and hip hip in the name of hip hop. You limit yourself, I do not. U will never get it. Where did you get the soldier part? My actions are against this. You have already engaged, see you do it every topic. Every topic, you can't stop. U think you are helping your cause? HAHA. Who brought my name up 10 times? I, Pearl Harbor for you?

lies or outright falsehood by you:

your time line
your Pearl Harbor
....everything you write about me, keep fishing.

Stop spreading bullshit and stop speaking my name. It's funny now that I am here, you got nothing to say. HOW HILARIOUS. Continue on with your nothingness.

Cat got your tongue? Or does Canibus got your dick?

My character, frustration when you speak then can't say shit. My character, you don't do shit to improve the world.

SpitBoss is shit, wanna debate? NO, so shut up.
Undergods a little upgrade from C&D, wanna debate? NO, so shut up.
Me? NO, please, shut up.

here's a gem,

you got me to post on here, a hateful mo fo, you still helping your cause?

you gonna write the next prose to ppl how they haven't read Hafiz or some poetry? WOW, u so enlightened broheem.

you hurt your own cause, everyone knows this.

like I said, you lost the first time you engaged. Showed your character, u like Kramer v. Elaine, Newman tricked you and you fell for it. truth is you fucked anyway, should have never said anything.

I would say pathetic, but everyone knows you can't stop.

I don't hate Canibus, I hate the fans.

iN dEFENSE OF MAD. FERD WILL BE PATRONIZING . iN DEfENSE OF FERD IT'S NIT pIcKING

All I needed to read.

At least I make my essays interesting.

Ferdowsi

damn ferd got too much extra time

Pretty cool list, although I'd definitely rank RTJ over Mic Club.